Posts by Faithful Witness

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3 years of study, Just found out!

by impala63rag in

jw
friends

hello friends, .

i would like some advice from those that are inpartial, and are familiar with the teachings of jw.

i studied with a wonderful jw couple weekly for 3 years.

Faithful Witness

Someone just asked me for this link, regarding a comment I made in my post above. Not trying to hijack this post, but here is some evidence you might want to review. The "faithful and discreet slave" is a parable, found in Matthew 24:45-51. I will let you read it yourself and decide what it means.

The Watchtower tells the JWs that the Faitful and Discreet Slave (used to be defined as all annointed 144,000 Christians) is actually the 8 men who make up the Governing Body of the religion. The GB tells them what to believe, what to do, and constantly reminds them to "work harder" in their door-to-door preaching work (keeping them busy, and away from worldly influence and indedpent thought).

These instructions that come down to the JW people from New York, are the "meat in due season, the spiritual food" that Jehovah's people need, in order to survive in this time of the end.

Here is one example of the "lies" that the governing body is warning their people to ignore (this week) about Jehovah's chosen people:

http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/governing-body-stands-accused-by-district-attorney-in-oklahoma-child-abuse-case

You are clearly a smart and reasonable individual. I am like you, in that we no longer could go to the KH, after we knew the truth about the truth. We were attending the meetings to please our "friends," hoping it would start to make more sense. Instead, it turned out to be an organization founded on lies. We were not able to go back in good conscience... lying to our friends was not an option.

Our BS conductor came back and called us bad seeds, too busy chasing riches to seek Jehovah... nothing was farther from the truth. Sadly, his 77 years of indoctrination control his every thought, word and deed. He is such a kind and gentle man (except that one time he cornered my husband and told him to "start making some progress here, or sentence your entire family to death at Armageddon... there was THAT ... )

Good luck to you! (JWs are also not allowed to have good luck!! haha) ;)

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3 years of study, Just found out!

by impala63rag in

jw
friends

hello friends, .

i would like some advice from those that are inpartial, and are familiar with the teachings of jw.

i studied with a wonderful jw couple weekly for 3 years.

Faithful Witness

I might add that you picked a perfect article to start reading exactly WHAT the JW's are instructed to believe.

I was also drawn into Bible reading by the JW's. Like me, I believe you have been rescued by divine intervention. Your decision to go to the meeting, after 3 years of Bible study... and to get involved in a conversation that shook you enough to do some independent research. Amazing timing!

How many times has your friend had to "do some research and get back to you?"

To this day, I give credit to the JW's for leading me to a better way of life. My experience with them was enlightening and really challenged my views on the world. I *almost* became indoctrinated, but luckily my academic husband was here to protect me from my naive desire to please my new friends. I still think highly of them, and really have a compassion for them, as they do not realize their eyes are covered in scales.

Like you, my journey with the JW's has led me to a path of better understanding, and a closer relationship with God then ever before. I am sending you a private message. This is a personal journey, and I congratulate you for remaining AWAKE! Bravo and Praise God!

Another soul escapes indoctrination!!

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3 years of study, Just found out!

by impala63rag in

jw
friends

hello friends, .

i would like some advice from those that are inpartial, and are familiar with the teachings of jw.

i studied with a wonderful jw couple weekly for 3 years.

Faithful Witness

Welcome impala63reg! Finally, someone like me!

I also studied with the JWs for years, and discovered the "truth about the truth" before joining. My husband and I discovered facts about them in a slightly different way (by stumbling upon a revealing TV show made in the 80's by John Ankerberg). Our BS *bible study* conductor went into a strange fit-like response, when we posed questions to him that came from *gasp* apostates. Ex-JWs are the absolute worst people you can talk to or llisten to... if you bring anything you have read here back to your "friend," you can be sure that friendship will end abruptly.

That is why they want you to use their Bible Teach book... very early in the process, you are warned about listening to people outside the organization. This week's Watchtower article reminds JWs not to listen to "outsiders," or even insiders who might question the absolute authority of the governing body. Ask your teacher about the "faithful and discreet slave," and what that means. Who is the slave? What if you don't agree with something the slave tells you to do?

Paragraph 17 of this week's article (that you have read) will have the congregation read aloud from 1 Thessalonians. It will contain a sentence, reminding the people to OBEY. This is a follow-up from an article they discussed about a month ago, in which the faithful and discreet slave has told the JW's to get ready to "obey instructions we give you, whether they make sense from a human standpoint or not." Go to jw.org, read Watchtower November 15, 2013 study edition. I think it is page 20, paragraph 17.

There is recent news coming out of the GOVERNING BODY facing criminal charges in Pennsylvania, for their involvement in covering up child sexual abuse. This has been happening for decades in this organization. They have a 2-witness rule for any sin that is committed. If 2 people didn't see it, it didn't happen... they protect pedofiles. They treat child sexual abuse as a sin, not a CRIME. Google the name Candace Conti and Jehovah's Witnesses. She has been awarded over $20 million to be paid by the Watchtower Society for its policies that led to her repeated abuse being covered up and allowed to continue. These child abuse cases are getting more publicity, which explains why they are warning you NOT to listen to the news media.

Satan is on the attack!

I'm sure your JW is a very nice person, and you have formed a wonderful friendship with them. I did the same. I was heartbroken to find out that this organization is run by a small group of controlling men in New York. If you do not obey them and agree with them 100%, you can not join. Once you join, you are not allowed to question any edict that comes down from the Watchtower.

I didn't mean to reply to your post, sounding like a raving lunatic. I really feel for you.

I would ask your friend the simple question about who is the faithful and discreet slave?

Ask them if they would really obey instructions that don't make sense from a human standpoint?

Does your relationship with God depend on the direction of the governing body?

Can you interpret the bible without the aid of the Watchtower publications? Why not?

By the way... you are not going to heaven, unless you are part of the 144,000 annointed Christians. Each year at Easter time, they have a "memorial," where they all REFUSE to drink from the cup or eat the bread. They pass around a tray and DENY that Christ's sacrifice was for them.

Click on my name and choose "posts started" and you can read some of my story... it is similar to yours.

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Please read! Breaking News....

by Newly Enlightened in

http://www.mcalesternews.com/breakingnews/x409169231/da-jehovah-witness-church-concealed-molestation-crimes.

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governing body being accused of covering it up!.

Faithful Witness

They have already got this covered in this week's Watchtower study article (December 2013). It starts out:

"HOAXES, scams, and deception are all too common in the present system of things. This should not surprise us. The Bible makes it plain that Satan the Devil is an accomplished deceiver, and he is the ruler of this system. (1 Tim. 2:14; 1 John 5:19) As we approach the end of this wicked system, Satan’s anger grows because he has only “a short period of time” left. (Rev. 12:12) So we can expect increased duplicity on the part of those who are influenced by the Devil, especially toward those who promote true worship.

2 Misleading statements and outright lies about Jehovah’s servants and their beliefs are sometimes featured in the media. Newspaper headlines, television documentaries, and Internet Web pages are used to propagate untruths. As a result, some people become disturbed, gullibly believing such lies."

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The devil's media is lying about the GB again! The article ends with a reminder that "You will obey our instructions."

The scriptures to be read aloud include 3 passages from Thessalonians, which mention "letters from us."

I read this news story this morning, got a glimmer of hope that someone might have to answer some questions, and that maybe some JW's would acutally wake up as a result of this new scandal... but after reading this article (and the cherry-picked scripture references that are supposed to support their claims), I really lost hope.

Who will a JW listen to? The Governing Body, who answers to no one but Jehovah, or the devil's media, that actually has to prove what they publish about other people?

If they are innocent, why do they refuse to answer questions? Oh, it must be so nice to live above reproach and accountability!

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Watching Amish Shunned on PBS...very deja vu if you are/were a JW!

by tenyearsafter in

this is a very interesting documentary...the similarities are so close, you could substitute jw for amish!

anyone else watching this?.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/introduction/shunned-introduction/.

Faithful Witness

I have a good friend who was raised Amish. Her mother took all 6 of her kids and left when my friend was in 6th grade. She ended up "corrupting" a very nice Amish man, so they deal with issues very similar to what my family faces. She is one of the few people who understand what I'm talking about.

She is funny sometimes too. She has some remnants of her upbringing, like her vocabulary and resistance to modern medicine. But she has taught me a lot about canning, and she does not waste ANYTHING! Haha.

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Nobody Is Following The Governing Body's Directives On Shunning, Cognitive Dissonance In Over Drive!

by frankiespeakin in

well wouldn't that be nice!

the governing body speaking and ain't nobody listening.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kngnikudmi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srayrzs-ohg.

Faithful Witness

Don't worry, the FDS has this covered. Their Watchtower study article this week warns:

Avoid Being "Quickly Shaken From Your Reason!"

"HOAXES, scams, and deception are all too common in the present system of things. This should not surprise us. The Bible makes it plain that Satan the Devil is an accomplished deceiver, and he is the ruler of this system. (1 Tim. 2:14; 1 John 5:19) As we approach the end of this wicked system, Satan’s anger grows because he has only “a short period of time” left. (Rev. 12:12) So we can expect increased duplicity on the part of those who are influenced by the Devil, especially toward those who promote true worship.

2 Misleading statements and outright lies about Jehovah’s servants and their beliefs are sometimes featured in the media. Newspaper headlines, television documentaries, and Internet Web pages are used to propagate untruths. As a result, some people become disturbed, gullibly believing such lies."

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The article starts out by saying how the media is lying about them, goes on to warn you who you associate with, and ends with another reminder that you are going to obey what "we" say in our letters.

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What is a Blessing?

by Suspicious in

being a born in, this question got me thinking.

what really is a blessing?

i read so much and hear so much about it in the kingdom halls.

Faithful Witness

That is not unique to the JW's. I know people who like to give God credit for everything that happens, even getting diagnosed with a disease. Praise God! Now we know how to treat your symptoms!

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They have got to be making this stuff up!

by Atlantis in

they have got to be making this stuff up!

posted here: .

http://www.jw-archive.org/ .

Faithful Witness

re JW.org apparel: If an R&F laborer wears that ski cap to work, and customers see it... that does count as field service time?

I see the artist formerly known as Prince in the back row, one seat to the left of the guy under the 3. My eyes keep going back to the guy picking his nose.

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Do JWs use the Baptizmal formula?

by Hortenzie in

do the elders say: "in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit" when they are immersing the one being baptized?.

Faithful Witness

They cite the following scripture in paragraph 15 of the Watchtower study article (Dec 2013) this week:

Matthew 28:19, 20

19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”

(Baptized ones are protected by Jesus, according to the paragraph... so I guess you're gonna want to do that!)

... Leading up to encouragement to be zealous, and spend part of your family worship time working on field ministry, and some of your family worship time for preparing for the meetings. (I guess it's just assumed that another portion of the time would be for reading the bible... if there's time left over).

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Planting seeds of thought with my JW doctor

by Faithful Witness in

i have hesitated to post anything about my recent encounters with our jw doctor, because i don't really want anyone to insult her or me, for continuing to rely on her for medical care.

our family doctor is a jehovah's witness.

we were referred to her by our former bs conductor.

Faithful Witness

You know, I'm really thinking about this now. (love that picture, Outlaw! haha)

Our BS conductor told us about her, and said "Our doctor is a JW." I guess we took his word for it. Is it possible she isn't actually a JW, but likes the connections she gets from them? I don't know where she lives, but her office is not near the territory where we live. Maybe she just pretends to be a JW, and allows them to leave the magazines there for her many JW patients.

I never asked her. I didn't really care one way or another, but we did mention to her that we were studying, and with whom. I don't know now.

I have seen WT literature at many different doctor's offices, and emergency rooms, etc. My sister works at an urgent care center, and she is throwing them away every week.

Maybe she is a JW fraud. So far, she has given us reasonable medical advice, and is good about referrals and helping us with special claims needs.